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13 Jun 2010

Winback, More Money Then Sales!

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: eLocal Liers, eLocal Warning!

eLocal is now making more money from a department know as Winback than Sales, a department established to force clients to pay for services  that in most cases weren’t rendered. This department calls customers and threatens to send them to collections if they do not pay the balance they owe. What is interesting is how this company freely calls back customers after knowing they have not performed and yet threatens them with sending them to collections, threatening them with their credit. Here’s a thought if you are a ex-customer remember to ask for written proof of what they claim to have provided you with, Ask for the TPV recording and any binding contracts they may have. Have your lawyer review it and make sure you are not being scammed. This company needs to have the local District Attorney look into its shady business ethics and practices. A company full of insidious egotistically malignant pieces of garbage. Make yourself be heard don’t just pay because they threaten you, there are several lawsuits currently being put together in where elocal listing has been charging clients for months and in some cases years without performing, modifying their client records to show otherwise. In other words if a client would call elocal claiming they had been charged for almost 2 years and could not find themselves on any search engine. To cover it up they had employees go and change data in the database manually to show otherwise. There are many employees and a couple of managers that will be subpoenaed to testify on how they where altering records in order to avoid potential lawsuits. eLocal listing is one big joke don’t let them fool or pressure you into paying anything, get an attorney like many are now in the process of doing. If you’re going to sue make sure you go for the people running the company Tim Judd, Ralph Williams, Todd Johnson, Greg Royse, Buffy Marie Defoore and Dan Meyerson as they already have a track record for scamming investors into investing into a company and then filing bankruptcy in order to funnel out that money into their own private interests. We currently are in the process of investigating the company’s individuals and we can say we are not surprised!

Don’t let them give you the “well you cant satisfy everyone, you think Disney doesn’t have complaints?” this is BS how is a company like elocallisting even comparing them themselves to a billion dollar company? Simple, it is a tactic used by customer service to try to minimize the issue and make it appear irrelevant do your research don’t just believe something they’re Customer Service Reps tell you, they are paid to make every possible atempt to keep you on-board so they can continue to charge you, they don’t care as much as they pretend to.

25 May 2010

eLocal Listing just another “SEO” Myth

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: eLocal Liers

Did you know that elocal has been in business for over 4 years? Did you know that they still have ZERO proprietary information, programs, code and graphics? But how so, how can a self proclaimed leader in internet marketing still not have any real secret sauce? Well it’s quite simple, you see when you pay someone else to say something most people believe it. Many of you have seen other sites that promote elocallisting as one of the top 10 seo companies in the nation. This of course is completely false as 99% of the time they have paid to get put on that list. For example topseos.com who have already been under heat from consumers and professionals for posting fixed charts based on the highest “donation” from any company.  These practices are downright evil and misleading which is why sites like ours are changing the face of business. It now has become extremely difficult for any rip-off companies like elocallisting.com to operate under false promises, as consumer experiences can now be documented and explored over the net. You see elocal tells its employees that it’s the best and “innovative” and yet the employees cannot for themselves look into this; if they do they become terminated. It is this same malignant and sinister management that has continued to oppress the workers blocking various sites like yelp.com, ripoffreport.com and elocalscams.com threatening them with their jobs. If that isn’t bad enough they fill them with false hopes telling them that someone is going to buy elocallisting and they are all going to win, YEAH RIGHT! This has already happened and the employees where lied to into believing the company had “merged” to avoid any profit sharing. Now with any company track record as this would you as a consumer be comfortable handing over your credit information?
We have spoken to many ex-employees regarding elocal and they have ALL said the same thing; elocal is a Ponzi scheme, a total scam, a rip-off but if this is so how can any company like this operate?
Well then we dive into their business model which goes a little something like this…
Elocallisting operates under a type of false service know as SEO (Search Engine Optimization) false because they cannot provide this service they could not afford to. You see real SEO is a skill that very few professionals have and because there are so few it is very expensive. In reality elocallisting stretches the term SEO by implying that a profile with keywords and phrases connected to other sites via links are SEO. If this is so then everyone would naturally be on the first page. The way that elocal attracts customers is not by recommendation but by aggressive cold calling, after all who would recommend a service that doesn’t work? You see elocallisting exploits small business owners filling them with false hopes telling them that can get them more customers through their service. All their testimonials are fabricated to show only what they want people to hear and see. Why would a company spend so much time trying to hide the truth, threatening old employees and currently employees? Why does elocallisting insist that their service works? We have all seen the numerous accounts of others on remote sites speaking out their horrid experiences with the company.
elocal operates and continues to operate because they continue to scam people across the US, and when they have worn out their brand they simply create a new one to white label over the service so that the consumer who may have already been scammed by elocallisting can be duped into the services again. You see elocal is able to stay afloat by hoarding in new victims and charging them upfront knowing that in a month or two; once the consumer has figured out that this is a sham they simply tell them to cancel if they are not happy with the service. To make this simple if you have enough new victims giving you “setup” fees and have less customers canceling their service then you can do business, this is how they do business. If this company is so great why don’t they put how many cancelations they have a month? How about annually? The truth is that they can’t afford to have everyone know the truth or else no one would buy into their illusive dream of more calls and more business.
We can only do our part in trying to inform the public of this sinister company, but we can only do so much. It is important that you as a business owner document your experience with elocallisting and leave it for others to see so that the number of victims decline and elocal disappears. Predatory companies are a malignant poison in our economy and it is time that we provide the cure.

1 May 2010

10 reasons to say NO to elocallisting.com!

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: Do it Yourself!, eLocal Warning!



1 ) Everything they do is completely free. Aside from being free it only needs to be done once everything else is pretty much updating information when needed. Why pay for monthly “maintenance” when it doesn’t really happen?

2 ) No Profile will EVER outrank a top level domain (.com, .net, .org). This is proven.

3 ) You can make you own video by simply going to istockphoto.com and purchasing a video for yourself, elocal does not make you a custom video unless you pay for it. If you don’t pay for it you’re paying for something that they bought as a discount price, someone else has the same video with different information. They also bought videos from istockphoto.com before they “partnered” with PIXEL FISH which is probably an outsourced company from India.

4 ) There service holds no proprietary knowledge, the service is made up free services offered to users on the web, that’s why there is so many other “internet marketing” companies offering the same thing. This also explains why ex-managers of elocallisting.com left and created their own cold calling center selling the same exact product.

5 ) Statistics show that people would rather do business with a .com site they found from a search and not a profile on some strange directory.

6 ) Being on any directory is useless unless people know to go to that directory to look for you; ultimately you want to be on Google’s root directories such as Maps & Local. It doesn’t matter if you’re in a directory that no one knows about plain and simple.

7 ) When profiles rank, they rank for a couple of days. Profiles do not hold up rankings because they are considered references, a website is the way to go!

8 ) Have you seen their corporate site? How does a company who claims to be a marketing technology company have such a poor looking site? If you look at their competitors they have more flashy and technically advanced sites.

9 ) There are literally hundreds of negative reports online about the company; there is not one single rebuttal to any of the reports only cheap attacks on assumed whistleblowers.

10 ) They have no system to track your rankings. There QA is a complete failure as they do not know a clients rankings until they call to cancel because they get no business, what makes it worse is most of the time the client was not processed. Once the company see’s failure they simply send you a cancelation recommendation. WHAT COMPANY SENDS YOU A CANCELATION RECOMMENDATION?!?!?! Maybe one that takes your money for the past 6 months using your funds as their R&D.

27 Apr 2010

elocallisting getting ready to launch 4 page profiles…

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: General

Yes this is true our source has told us elocallisting.com is now trying to create a 4/+ profile system, ultimately selling consumers on the idea of a 4 page profile vs a website.

We of course know this is completely stupid, the notion of a profile replacing a site. It is no wonder why they have constantly failed with there business, they have 0 qualified people for innovation.
The idea must be that consumers will pay for a 4 page profile instead of investing into a real website. Why? it can’t be for SEO purposes, one page profiles and a four page profiles will make no difference especially one with the same saturated words and phrases on all pages. You need to have your own domain, not be a part of someone else’s.

Be smart, invest in a website even if its a $100.00 website.

25 Apr 2010

elocallisting gets hacked yet again…

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: eLocal Warning!

We received an anonymous email containing claims that elocallisting.com was hacked. The email said the following:

“the following sites of elocal where compromised.

elocalrocks.com

twitter.com/elocalrocks

their flickr.com account

Micheal A. Email account (corporate gmail),

Martin C. Email account (corporate gmail)

Carolee C. Email Account (corporate gmail)

Check out these links for the videos and screenshots to prove it.
elocal can thank Martin, Carolee and Michael for there superb password abilities.
If we were able to hack there sites imagine what else we have access to now >:)
Thank you Google docs!

This is only the begining…

PLEASE POST THIS ON YOUR SITE!

We weren’t able to determine if these claims were true but the letter states it and there elocalrocks.com site changed to only a basic word press theme. And there twitter account had been locked for a couple of hours. This is not a surprise to us as they have been hacked several times, even there own authorize.net accounts.

22 Apr 2010

Warning! eLocallisting is white labeling

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: eLocal Resellers, eLocal Warning!

In the past couple of month’s elocallisting America’s #1 online marketing scam has begun to move away from internal sales creating a network of resellers selling their failed product. This of course was due to the overwhelming amount of negative feedback found online. As a strategic move they began to create a cluster or network of resellers who could sell their product in order to avoid selling through the elocal brand. This also would allow them to resell to past clients as they would have no clue that the product once again was elocallisting’s. How can anyone do business with any company using such sinister methods? If their product is so great and successful why have other companies sell it for you? Maybe it’s the fact that they can no longer sell anything through the limping elocal brand.

If any company cold calls your business and offers you online marketing make sure to ask if they white label the product and if they do who’s product it is, you as the consumer have a right to know.

A warning to those willing to work with elocal and resell their scam, we will find you and when we do you will be exposed as well, bet on it!

9 Apr 2010

eLocalListing Executives Leave eLocal!

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: eLocal Dirtbags, eLocal Warning!

For months now we have been investigating rumors of Todd Johnson, Jeff Einstoss and Mike Ruter leaving eLocallisting. This of course due to the negative information about the trio coming to light, was beginning to take a toll on the companies already damaged reputation. As we continued our investigation into the rumors we found that they were only half true. Todd Johnson and his younger brother Jeremy Johnson had left elocal only to open another office down the street that became a reseller of eLocal Listing, www.pepperbottletech.com. Jeff Einstoss and Mike Ruter also made there move creating another office down the street also reselling eLocallisting, www.jhemarketing.com. This move was not odd as it had been attempted before as a tactic to funnel in more sales through an unknown company name without a reputation that could be traced online. In the end this move was a strategic plan by Tim Judd, eLocal Listing, Todd Johnson, Mike Ruter and Jeff Einstoss in an effort to get away from the extremely damaged reputation eLocal Listing has, to get more sales through an unknown entity selling from a vantage point where eLocal Listing could not be seen, This practice is known as white-labeling. eLocal Listing till this day cannot perform, they fake and fabricate reviews which they go around the net and leave for themselves. This is just misinformation to lead consumers to believe that they are the best at what they do, nothing could be farther from the truth. The continue to scam people till this day in hope only to get another sale to counteract the amount of cancellations a day. The reality is simple, the entire management is a bunch of overpaid arrogant ignorant self righteous incompetent fools who think they are experts, especially there VP of Innovation, Steve Espinosa. Be careful what information you share with this individual he is known to borrow ideas and claim them as him own but most of all remember to do research on this company before you give them any credit information as the have very aggressive sales tactics and once they have your information it becomes a game to see how long it will take you the business owner to find out you have been scammed.

If you for one second believe that we are unjust or are being on the attack take a moment and go to google.com and search for “elocal scam”, “elocal”, “elocal listing” there is over 100 reports on diffrent sites of different ex-elocal customers talking about how much of a scam they really are.

9 Apr 2010

Do not use elocallisting.com!

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: Ripoff Reports, eLocal Warning!

Regal Lighting and Power Inc Do not use elocallisting.com to promote your business Cedar Park, Texas

Regal Lighting and Power Inc
Cedar Park
Cedar Park Texas 78613
United States of America
Phone: 5126336308

I hired elocallisting.com to promote my business online 6 months ago. As of today 3-5-10, I have only recieved 1 call relative to their marketing and optimization plan. After 6 months of paying high prices for non-performance, I decided to cancel 1 month prior to the next billing date. They said they would cancel but would continue to bill me through the next months billing cycle, while taking my ads offline and reaping a free months billing.

I strongly urge anyone contemplating using elocallisting.com for their business to reconsider an go with anyone else other than elocallisting, as this company is a lame performer and and a ripoff of your money. Be forewarned, do not waste your time and money on this company as they have no ability to promote your company and provide you with a ROI.

Take it from a 30 year veteran in the business and I have been taken for the last time.
BEWARE elocallisting.com, THEY WILL RIP YOU OFF AND STEAL YOUR MONEY, WITHOUT ANY ROI.

Source:  http://www.ripoffreport.com/liars/regal-lighting-and-p/regal-lighting-and-power-inc-d929c.htm

1 Apr 2010

Real elocal listing employee testimonials:

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: eLocal Dirtbags

Nice try Martin, Its getting time to tell your lovely story… It seems elocal is now trying to once again misinform the public with a pretentious look of being “honest” by flooding the net with scripted videos portraying happy employees at elocallisting.com . If you would be so kind, we have to object…

Pat Arnold:
RESPONSE:Since you wanna talk about growth, what exactly have you grown into? what innovative products are seen in your department? Ohhhh now it all makes sense… you must mean the collection of “borrowed ideas” which have been claimed as your own, which oddly enough has been more than once. Proof? Your company is a group of stolen/borrowed ideas that aren’t well thought out thats why they are still the same old idea with nothing innovative about them. The people at your company have no idea what they are doing with the concept at hand, they just know its a good one and for now it sells. They wait for someone else to create something so they can recreate it as there own. Sadly this is the truth you have been hidden from, it is called compartmentalization. Name us one product that is “innovative” that elocallisting actually braught forward, that no one else had, good luck.

Gary Noller:
RESPONSE: We don’t know whats worse your acting or your potrail of a latino speaking spanish. Since you wanna bring associations into the video
for some form a pathetic credibility, why not talk about how your company refers to latino’s as wetbacks? or “beaners” like Nick Judd? ( we should introduce him to some >:)

Dan Norris:
RESPONSE: Since you’re in analysis, obviously… did you see how Dominic was embezzeling money from the company? Maybe the fact that the whole
incident with Dominic was never brought to light for the investors? Maybe that your “innovative products” didn’t work. Maybe why they didn’t work?
How about all the BS you just said on this video, just another calculation being played out.

IF YOUR GOING TO IMPLY THAT ALL EMPLOYEES AT ELOCALLISTING.COM ARE HAPPY THEN…

Let us not imply that you’re ignorant if indeed you’re not but have you seen all the employees calling your company a cult, how about a ripoff? a scam?  Maybe its your job to TRY to confuse people into seeing something that really isn’t there. I guess its just us being paranoid….

If you want to see what REAL elocal employees have to say about elocallisting.com you should check out this report, one that may we add have been trying to get rid of:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/employers/elocal-listing-eloca/elocal-listing-zone-communica-f2266.htm

31 Mar 2010

What Happened to Todd Johnson? pepperbottletech.com?

Author: CelestialBeing | Filed under: Content Submission

We received another anonymous email:

“This guy is pathetic (Todd Johnson). He is now running a business with his brother (Jeremy Johnson) and other old elocal reps. He is still promising things, brainwashing reps, and fucking people over. The name is funny, Pepperbottletech.com Do a search and you can see all his recent adds for hire Please let the public know this…. Rip off, website, whatever just make sure he does not get away with this again”

Interesting do you not all agree?

You leave from one scam to the next?